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Old 04-29-2008, 07:53 AM
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Hey Gary.........

The AR15 is an expensive rifle. If you're looking for a rifle in .223 at a reasonable price, check out Ruger.

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Old 04-29-2008, 09:56 AM
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I've been looking at the Ruger Mini-14,

I can get it for around $800.00. but my concern is how accuret it is? We have a delivery person that stopped today hwo custom make M4 AR-15 type rifles. He offered to make one for me at his price of $700.00 LEGAL. I don't think I can beat that price. He's stopping in this Saturday to show me his latest creation. I'll take a picture and post it.

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Re: I'd,

Quote:
Originally posted by Cpl Miller
like to see a picture of the Kimber .45, not sure I've seen one before. But then again I'm not a big pistal kind of guy.
I tried to post a picture but it said the image was too big, dont know how to scale it down without losing the quality?
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Old 04-30-2008, 10:12 AM
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You can change the size using,

Adobe Image ready, you might be able to use MSPaint as well. You won't loss as much quality as you think. The picture of the wife 9mm was reduced down to 600dpi without loosing any quality.
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Old 04-30-2008, 11:12 AM
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This is how I resize my pictures.
Open your picture files (Windows XP) then open the picture you want to resize. Right cleck it, then open with Microsoft Office Picture Manager. Then click Edit Picture, then on right click Resize you will see the size of your picture. Then click on the check mark under Resize Settings. Pick the size you want, I use 640X480. Then click OK and exit program.
I hope this is clearer then mud.
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Old 04-30-2008, 11:27 AM
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Found the rifle I think,

will do the trick. See attached picture of an AR-15 I am going to have custom built in 7.62X39 or 7.62X51 (308 round). Built to my standards for only $1000.00. I keep seeing this same type weapon for around $1700.00 or $1800.00, so $1000.00 is a great deal and its NEW. Hot damn
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:02 PM
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Nice looking Rifle Gary

I still don't know why you'd want a rifle like that though, unless you plan on robbing a bank. Besides, I didn't think rifles like that were legal in California.

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Kimber 45

I resized the picture, let see if this works...
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:46 PM
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Cool I think that Ruger Mini 14 isn't a bad choice



Another thing is it probably won't be on any Assault Weapon Ban that your state might come up with.
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Old 04-30-2008, 04:00 PM
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Jay and Jack,

The mini 14 is still a choice, the builder of the AR also asked about the mini. I guess I just like the looks and fire power behind the AR15. What made me look closer at it is the fact I can get it in the 762X39 cal. Thats the same round as my SKS which I have more ammo for than I need.

It's sure a hard choice guys. And Larry, nice piece!

Oh ya, this is a PRE-Ban weapon for California (AR-15)
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That mini14 is very nice, its now banned in NJ .
along with just about everything else.
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Unhappy Actually, any semi-auto is in danger of being banned

Teddy Kennedy wants any firearm capable of firing a military cartridge banned! We're talking any rifle or pistol ball ammo. Think about it! 45 ACP, 9mm, 30/06, .762, .556, 50 BMG and a lot more. So, we are talking pistols, revolvers, semi-auto rifles, bolt action rifles and even some lever action rifles.

Here in Connecticut, we still have an Assault Rifle Ban. I'm sure you guys have seen that replica semi-auto of the sub-machine gun that so many Marines in WWII carried. Here in Connecticut, it's banned. What's crazy is, as long as you have a Federal license for automatic weapons, you can buy the same full auto sub machine gun the Marines carried but you can't buy a replica that is only semi-auto.
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Old 05-01-2008, 05:36 AM
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The Ruger Mini .30..........

also comes in 7.62x39.

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Old 05-01-2008, 06:20 AM
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Hard decission to make guys.

The AR15 is such a nicely made weapon for the cost. But as Jay said, it does come in 7.62x39 which would comply with my ammo needs. The weapon is small and easy to carry, along with it's ammo.
I still have to wonder about the range of the weapon, if I re-arrange my thought pattern from 200 - 300 yards down to 100-200 yards for accuracy, then I'm ok with it.

Another concern is whether the 7.62X39 round has the knock down power as say the 308 round (7.62X51). When hunting a deer, will the round (7.62x39) be able to kill a larger animal like a deer? I know the Mini-14 shoots the 7.62x51 as well as the smaller round.

I haven't purchased a rifle for many years, and having to choose my next (or should I say last) rifle leaves me with wanting to make the right choice. You guys have given me much to think about before I make any kind of choice, that's for sure.
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Gary....

The 7.62x39 round was designed for an assault weapon, not a hunting weapon. The 7.62x51 or .308 round is a much better round for hunting deer. I have a Kimber Classic Rifle in .308 that I use for that purpose.

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I know what the 308 round,

can do and that's why I bring up the knock down power of the smaller round. Hell, the 308 is a killer round, we learned that from our days in the Corps Jay. We both know how accurite of a round it is up to and beyond 500 yards.

Your rifle has the barral (length) to shove a round out there, but with the mini-14's short barral, what can one expect for distance shooting?

You've seen my deer rifle (Enfield), the problem with that rifle is it weighs as much, if not more than my Garand. One reason I'm looking for something smaller or should I say liter but still have the punch I think I need.
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The difference.......

between the 7.62x51 and the 7.62x39 is the powder charge, whereas the 7.62x51 has 51 grains of powder verses 39 grains for the 7.62x39. For distance of course the 7.62x51 is the better choice. For close quarters assault I would prefer the 7.62x39.
Both have great knockdown power for the distances they were disigned for.

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And that distance being?

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The 7.62x39 round........

was not designed for distances over 150 yards, it is an assault round designed for close quarter combat. I have an old Mosin Nagant M44 in 7.62x54 Russian caliber. That round was used by Russian snipers as well as Viet Cong snipers.

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Old 05-01-2008, 07:26 AM
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I know during Nam,

after most had changed over to the M-16 there would be at lest one rifleman that would carry an M-14 for those long shots. Altough most snipers carried a bolt action rifle, many however did carry the M-14 using the 308 round. Tells me the 308 is the right way to go, and I never doubted that, it's the rifle that I am having the hard time choosing.

Other than the round type, what is it about the AR15 that you don't like Jay?
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